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Invitation:

You are cordially invited to attend the SoCal meeting. At the present time about 12 members in the Southern California area have expressed their desire to attend.

The month of June is not the ideal time to hold the meeting because members have vacations and graduations that take preference over this meeting.

Arturoramos wrote:
> Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 18:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
> From: arturoramos
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Wisconsin Rancheros
> Linda:
>
> There are a number of other Nuestros Ranchos members in Wisconsin.

Hi, Primos, Primas, and fellow members:

It has been some time since the Nuestros Ranchos Group members in the Southern California area had a meeting. I have been waiting for somebody to suggest it, but time is flying by and it would be nice if we got together again.

Hi Wisconsin Nuestros Ranchos members,

Are there people in the Milwaukee, Madison, Racine/Kenosha area who
would like to meet, exchange information, and compare genealogies etc.?

If so, contact me and we can set up a meeting date.

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> Mickey and Joseph,

Anytime you are ready, we'd love to see you attend one of our meetings.

Joseph, filing as a non-profit in California is pretty straight-forward. You
file the appropriate form with the Secretary of State's office and pay

Maria

Wish Josie and I could go....maybe next time....say hello to our friends!!

Mickey

In a message dated 4/24/2008 2:38:38 P.M. Central Standard Time,
makas@nc.rr.com writes:

Hi John
Please keep us posted on a So. Calif meeting. Even thou we are from the Sacramento area, we plan on being down in So. Calif for a wedding on June 28th. Saturday day would not work for us, but a Friday evening, Saturday evening, or a Sunday would work. Even June 21st week-end would work for us since we hope to meet Rich's cousin in San Diego and that date is unsure, since we have to wait for his ship USS Cleveland to come in ( approx Jun 24th).

Gilbert,
Don't expect to find a great deal of information in the Mexican cemeteries. Many graves don't have headstones and some headstones don't have names. The cemeteries are not maintained the way they are in the states. Best way I've found to search is still through the films archived by the LDS Church, order the film for defunciones / Death records and scroll through one record at a time. Most of these films are from the Catholic church's archives.

I have met and read persons Jewish Ashkenazim(sp?) that went to South America in many locations before, during, and after WW II assimilated into their new countries, those I know kept their faith, but it is highly conceivable if in concentration camps they kept their huge secret. I out different have read about different detention camps, I am no expert but Germany I believe was the only tattoo of your description. it was mostly their families that helped them escape or relocate, The Nazi's were helped by the Catholic Church to relocate to South America. You may want to try Holocaust Survivor web sites to see if you find similar stories.

Daniel,

Thanks for responding to my question.
Does your Antonio Martinez have any siblings?
What is his birthdate?
What are his parents names and did he ever live in the U.S.?

Hopefully your answers will help me in my research.

Joseph, I was really excited that one of my cousins, Daniel Lopez Jimenez, wants to join nuestrosranchos. I know that his wife is Castellanos/Diaz and hopefully bring more info with him. While he presently lives in Iowa, he did live in Jamay for many years, and I am sure his knowledge of areas around Jamay, La Barca, Ocotlan, Guadalajara and other places will be of benefit to us.

Gilbert,

Nuestra Señora De Los Dolores is the main Catholic Parish in Teocaltiche, I don't know if there is also a Rancho of the same name.

Alicia
San Jose, Calif

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Plug in Mexico in the search engine:

15. Charting America: Maps from the Lawrence H. Slaughter Collection and
Others
http://digitalgallery.nypl.org/nypldigital/explore/dgexplore.cfm?topic=…

Desde hace tiempo trato de comunicarme con ustedes para ver si me pueden ayudar con alguna informacion sobre mis ancestros. Mi nombre es Esther Jordan (Lopez) y vivo en San Diego, California.

Ahnentafel Chart for Rafael Ornelas Lopez

Good question Miggy. My family is also from Jalos, and we live in the
Sacto area. I recall my father talking about a "Guero Torres." Does
this rink a bell? If so, I can ask my dad for further info. I have de

Hello Everyone,I live in Claremont ,Calif. about 30 miles east of Los Angeles.Does anybody know what local library carries Luz Montejano 's book in my area? Thank you
Ronnie Reynoso

Hola to you!

I spoke to my father today and he told me that the Gutierrez family had a Rancho El Monte in Acatic. My De La Torre's had tha Rancho El Sauz. I have been to Acatic, Tepa, etc visiting family when I was a youngster. My dad also said that his parents were married in the Church in Acatic. I had an Aunt Clementina from Acatic. In my fathers family my dad and one uncle took the last name Gutierrez, my other uncle took the name De La Torre. I have pictures of Rancho El Sauz, or what was left of it taken in 1980 the last time I was in Acatic. My Aunt Esperanza said all of the land has been sold off probably in 2000. I know absolutely nothing about my family other than the pedigree I posted. My dad is 71 and cannot remember much, but, I am going to see my Aunts this summer in Dixon Ca and will try to see if they remember anything.

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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:24:56 -0700
From: "Miggy GUTIERREZ"
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Are we related?
To:

I think I made another royal connection for you Ornelas, Vásquez de BAca (The New Mexico Lineage). After long research (Not really just abt 3 hours.) An ancestor of the Vasquez de BAca is Leonor de Orozco and an ancestor of Ornelas is Petronila de Orozco are sister as we know.

Is anyone familiar with these surnames?

DE LA PEDROSA
DíAZ-CASTELLANO
ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ
LOMELíN

i HAVE 3 ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ AND ABOUT 4 DE LA CRUZ
MY RESEARCH IS LEADING ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT

Just wanted to let everyone know that this website is REALLY FUN and helpful. They have a wealth of information. You can even view the actual images and PRINT at no charge! From the passport of our Lope Ruiz de Esparza to my Juan Perez del Camino who was made to the office of the Real Audencia de Guadalajara on June 6, 1605 in Guadalajara. Im sure ill find much more. Im going to search on the founding families of Aguascalientes a bit more. Let me know if you have any other questions.

Even though I absolutely love Helyn's website:

http://pueblosamerica.com

I couldn't find the one place I've been searching for: Rancho del Salto de Los Romeros. I think this Rancho is no longer in existence and I can't seem to find historical maps that have it either. I guess it isn't critical that I find it other than I just would. The below scans from the 1855 census has it 4 Leguas from Santa Maria and sandwiched between Rancho de las Precitas (3 Leguas) and Rancho de los Sauces. I can find El Sauz which is probably the Los Sauces but I can't find my Rancho del Salto de Los Romeros. I found some information about Leguas below but don't know what else to do. Anyone have any thoughts about finding a historical town about 14 miles from Santa Maria de Los Angeles in Jalisco?

I'm doing a bit of fishing and was wondering if someone has this film
if you would mind doing a look up for me?

joseph

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Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)

Hello everyone my name is Lona Rivera, I am new to Nuestros Ranchos, but not to genealogy.
I am beginning research on my mother's Perez line. I know that my great grandfather was Magdaleno Perez born about 1886 at Hacienda de Cedros, Zacatecas.

Hello Ronnie and Irene,

My husband's maternal great-grandmother Maria Aniseta Losano Aguirre bapt 20 April 1829 Nochistlan was married to a Domingo Lomelin on 27 Nov 1857 (IGI M606263 Nochistlan). This couple were the parents of Agustin Aguirre Lomeli (IGI J606246 Nochistlan).