Looking for records for Piedras Negras, Choahuila 1903 -
By juanitahenniger |
These records seem to be missing on family search site. Does anyone know where I might find these records? Also, is there a Piedras Negras, Aguascalientes?
Hi Juanita,
I found online a map of Aguascalientes which shows towns and Haciendas.
There is a town named Piedras Negras, going West from Aguascalientes on Route 70 and then taking one of the short yellow roads going North. http://www.aguascalientes.gob.mx/estado/mapaedo.htm
Oh, sounds interesting. My grandmother always said she was born in Piedras Negras, Aguascalientes, but since I could only find Piedras Negras in Coahuila I assumed that she was mistaken about the state. This gives me a lead. I'm off to check to see what parishes are near this new find. Thank you so much Victoriano! This means alot.
The Coahuila church records are grouped in "Mexico Catholic Church Records" with several other states. The civil records are separately listed as their own heading.
From the Family History Library catalog, when you do a "place search" for Piedras Negras, and you follow the links to the page that lists all the filmed church records for this town, there will be a link in red that will take you to the records.
I've tried all that, but what I'm finding is that the baptismal records for Piedras Negras only go up to 1902. There doesn't seem to be any other links that will get me to 1903. I'm wondering if baptisms were not done in Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe (Piedras Negras, Coahuila)after 1902 or if they are missing. I didn't see on the site where they would be microfilmed. So, I guess I'm a little bit lost. Any ideas where else I might look? Thanks
There are a number of reasons that there are such limited church records for Piedras Negras. I did some searching, and I have a possible explanation. From the website of the city, under "Historia" (http://www.piedrasnegras.gob.mx/2010/06/historia/) it says:
El 2 de septiembre de 1932, la ciudad sufre su 2ª gran inundación con grandes pérdidas materiales, al desbordarse el Río Bravo. Evento que se repitió el 28 de junio de 1954, con la más grande inundación que ocasionó graves daños que no pudieron ser cuantificados, que solo reconoció la pérdida de 60 vidas, aunque se manejaron cifras superiores.
I do not what parts of the city were affected, but this suggests a significant part.
1932 - Sept 1, 1932 - Flooding was disastrous covering most of Piedras Negras and Eagle Pass - 5 ft over the deck of the International Bridge - In Laredo, the International Bridge deck was flooded by 6 ft - nearly 200 city blocks in Laredo flooded and about half the business district in Nuevo Laredo was underwater.
In 1954, Hurricane Alice made landfall near Brownsville, Texas. From the same website:
The crest was at 5:00 AM 6/29 at 53.51 ft, 964,000 cfs downstream at Eagle Pass. Flow was to the heads of parking meters in downtown Eagle Pass, and the International Bridge was destroyed as flow was near 10 ft over the floor - The Southern Pacific railway bridge over the river was destroyed, and much of Piedras Negras on the Mexican side was underwater with a tragically high number of drownings. The river was 3 mi wide at Eagle Pass; Eagle Pass and Piedras Negras line the river.
Neither one of these events is encouraging for the survival of archives.
Thank you George. I was familiar with 1954 flood as my great grandfather on my mother's paternal side was born in Brownsville and his records were lost during the flood. I never thought the same flood would end up affecting my mothers maternal side. Looks like my job just got tougher. My one hope is that my Great Grandmother was not from Aguascalientes but from another state nearby because from my understanding all weddings occurred in the brides hometown. Thanks for your help and time spend researching I really appreciate it.
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Hello Juanita,
It sems like the LDS did not microfilm any Piedras Negras baptisms after 1902, but they have the civil records online:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamil…
Best,
Victoriano Navarro
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Thanks Victoriano I will check those records again. :)
Juanita Henniger
Aguascalientes Map Online with Towns and Haciendas
Hi Juanita,
I found online a map of Aguascalientes which shows towns and Haciendas.
There is a town named Piedras Negras, going West from Aguascalientes on Route 70 and then taking one of the short yellow roads going North.
http://www.aguascalientes.gob.mx/estado/mapaedo.htm
The homepage is the official one for the State maps:
http://www.aguascalientes.gob.mx/estado/mapas.aspx
Best,
Victoriano Navarro
Aguascalientes Map Online with Towns and Haciendas
Oh, sounds interesting. My grandmother always said she was born in Piedras Negras, Aguascalientes, but since I could only find Piedras Negras in Coahuila I assumed that she was mistaken about the state. This gives me a lead. I'm off to check to see what parishes are near this new find. Thank you so much Victoriano! This means alot.
Juanita Henniger
Piedras Negras, Coahuila
The Coahuila church records are grouped in "Mexico Catholic Church Records" with several other states. The civil records are separately listed as their own heading.
From the Family History Library catalog, when you do a "place search" for Piedras Negras, and you follow the links to the page that lists all the filmed church records for this town, there will be a link in red that will take you to the records.
In either case, you get to the same place.
George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA
Piedras Negras, Coahuila
Hi George,
I've tried all that, but what I'm finding is that the baptismal records for Piedras Negras only go up to 1902. There doesn't seem to be any other links that will get me to 1903. I'm wondering if baptisms were not done in Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe (Piedras Negras, Coahuila)after 1902 or if they are missing. I didn't see on the site where they would be microfilmed. So, I guess I'm a little bit lost. Any ideas where else I might look? Thanks
Juanita Henniger
Piedras Negras
Juanita
I misinterpreted the intent of your question.
There are a number of reasons that there are such limited church records for Piedras Negras. I did some searching, and I have a possible explanation. From the website of the city, under "Historia" (http://www.piedrasnegras.gob.mx/2010/06/historia/) it says:
El 2 de septiembre de 1932, la ciudad sufre su 2ª gran inundación con grandes pérdidas materiales, al desbordarse el Río Bravo. Evento que se repitió el 28 de junio de 1954, con la más grande inundación que ocasionó graves daños que no pudieron ser cuantificados, que solo reconoció la pérdida de 60 vidas, aunque se manejaron cifras superiores.
I do not what parts of the city were affected, but this suggests a significant part.
I found another website, concerning major and catastrophic storms in Texas (http://pubs.usgs.gov/of/2003/ofr03-193/cd_files/USGS_Storms/patton.htm):
1932 - Sept 1, 1932 - Flooding was disastrous covering most of Piedras Negras and Eagle Pass - 5 ft over the deck of the International Bridge - In Laredo, the International Bridge deck was flooded by 6 ft - nearly 200 city blocks in Laredo flooded and about half the business district in Nuevo Laredo was underwater.
In 1954, Hurricane Alice made landfall near Brownsville, Texas. From the same website:
The crest was at 5:00 AM 6/29 at 53.51 ft, 964,000 cfs downstream at Eagle Pass. Flow was to the heads of parking meters in downtown Eagle Pass, and the International Bridge was destroyed as flow was near 10 ft over the floor - The Southern Pacific railway bridge over the river was destroyed, and much of Piedras Negras on the Mexican side was underwater with a tragically high number of drownings. The river was 3 mi wide at Eagle Pass; Eagle Pass and Piedras Negras line the river.
Neither one of these events is encouraging for the survival of archives.
George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA
Piedras Negras
Thank you George. I was familiar with 1954 flood as my great grandfather on my mother's paternal side was born in Brownsville and his records were lost during the flood. I never thought the same flood would end up affecting my mothers maternal side. Looks like my job just got tougher. My one hope is that my Great Grandmother was not from Aguascalientes but from another state nearby because from my understanding all weddings occurred in the brides hometown. Thanks for your help and time spend researching I really appreciate it.