Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!! :)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas> Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in 1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records.
Is there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example: "Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

Comment

Nancy, welcome to the wonderful world of research! I'm working on a marriage
information record that has 3,100 pages, they are being done 1 by 1 so I don't
miss the family connections since they list the dispensations that go back 4 and
5 generations.

Sometimes we are very lucky and find someone working on the same lines and they
share their information that connects us and takes us back generations.

As for me I have started listing the page numbers from the Familysearch online
pilot program you are using now. This will make it much easier for you and
others to find what they are looking for without having to search the complete
month or year to find what they are looking for. I am also entering into my
records the page number for each month on the film I work on.. so much easier to
find if you have the first page of each month..

Happy hunting, Linda in B.C.
( researching in Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan)

________________________________
From: "nancasillas@comcast.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sun, June 26, 2011 9:34:24 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at
www.familysearch.org

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!!
:)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family
back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas>
Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found
ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in
1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records. Is
there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the
actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de
San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records
after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by
location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example:
"Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number
where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It
goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going
blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

Comment

Linda,
What sort of record is it that lists so many generations back?! The matrimonial entries I've researched online are very short, sometimes don't even list parents. Then the corresponding informacion matrimonial to the entry, is not much longer. I've never even seen grandparents mentioned, usually just testigos giving the same formulaic responses.
What you're doing sounds very long and drawn, but with the promise of great results.
Please let me know. Are these documents you are researching from another source other than familysearch online or microfilm?
Thanks so much. Sounds exciting! Alice Blake

--- On Sun, 6/26/11, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 5:38 PM

Sometimes we are very lucky and find someone working on the same lines and they
share their information that connects us and takes us back generations.

Happy hunting, Linda in B.C.
( researching in Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan)

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!!
:)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family
back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas>
Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found
ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in
1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records. Is
there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the
actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de
San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records
after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by
location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example:
"Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number
where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It
goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going
blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

Comment

Alice these are marriage information records for Jerez, Zacatecas. I'm working
on 1891-1902 so it's no wonder there are more than 3,100 pages. Not all marriage
information records give as much information as the later ones but they do
usually mention the inlaws and of course the witnesses. I am also now intering
if they could read or write also, that information is on the marriage
information records too and also for the witnesses and parents. Some older
records simply state they had a dispensation and how many generations, 2nd, 3rd
or 4th degree. I find marriage information records give more information than
any other church record.
I am only working on the Familysearch pilot program now since I can work from
home. Going to Jerez and Jalisco was of no help since they were understaffed,
overworked and had no copy machines. I think others have had better experiences
finding records in Mexico than I did.

Linda in B.C.

________________________________
From: Alice Blake
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sun, June 26, 2011 10:56:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at
www.familysearch.org

What you're doing sounds very long and drawn, but with the promise of great
results.

Please let me know. Are these documents you are researching from another source
other than familysearch online or microfilm?
Thanks so much. Sounds exciting! Alice Blake

--- On Sun, 6/26/11, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at
www.familysearch.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 5:38 PM

5 generations.

Sometimes we are very lucky and find someone working on the same lines and they
share their information that connects us and takes us back generations.

find if you have the first page of each month..

Happy hunting, Linda in B.C.
( researching in Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan)

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!!
:)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family
back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas>
Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found
ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in
1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records. Is
there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the
actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de
San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records
after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by
location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example:
"Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number

where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It

goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going
blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

Comment

Thank you for the heads up....I have been researching now over 30 years....but the French side of the family. The French were fanatics at record keeping and indexing records. They also linked the records pretty fast, when digitalizing of records began. T he University of Montréal is a wealth of information as well as the PRDH and have links to the actual records that are indexed, so you don't have to scroll through 1000's of them . With all the effort that was done to compile the index at familysearch.org....it would have been heaven if someone would have thought to put the page numbers down as they indexed everything. Can you imagine how sweet that would have been. With what I am looking for in Jalostotitlan, it'll only be about 400-1000 to scroll through... ...wish me luck!! :)

Nancy Casillas

Saint Clair, Michigan

----- Original Message -----

From: "Erlinda Castanon-Long"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2011 4:35:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

Linda in B.C.

What you're doing sounds very long and drawn, but with the promise of great
results.

Please let me know. Are these documents you are researching from another source
other than familysearch online or microfilm?
Thanks so much. Sounds exciting! Alice Blake

--- On Sun, 6/26/11, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at
www.familysearch.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 5:38 PM

5 generations.

Sometimes we are very lucky and find someone working on the same lines and they
share their information that connects us and takes us back generations.

find if you have the first page of each month..

Happy hunting, Linda in B.C.
( researching in Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan)

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!!
:)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family
back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas>
Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found
ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in
1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records. Is
there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the
actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de
San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records
after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by
location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example:
"Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number

where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It

goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going
blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

Comment

Thanks so much, Linda!
Since I'm relatively new at this, I thought that maybe there is another source I just didn't know about dealing specifically with dispensations for marriage that offered more information than the informacion matrimonials online. It's true I'm currently dealing mostly with early to mid 1700's, so things must have been different then or different from parish to parish. Continued good luck on your gold mine!
Alice Blake

--- On Sun, 6/26/11, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 8:35 PM

Linda in B.C.

What you're doing sounds very long and drawn, but with the promise of great
results.

Please let me know. Are these documents you are researching from another source
other than familysearch online or microfilm?
Thanks so much. Sounds exciting! Alice Blake

--- On Sun, 6/26/11, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at
www.familysearch.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 5:38 PM

5 generations.

Sometimes we are very lucky and find someone working on the same lines and they
share their information that connects us and takes us back generations.

find if you have the first page of each month..

Happy hunting, Linda in B.C.
( researching in Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan)

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!!
:)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family
back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas>
Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found
ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in
1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records. Is
there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the
actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de
San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records
after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by
location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example:
"Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number

where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It

goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going
blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

Comment

Alice, one thing I've learned is whenever possible don't enter a surname for the
wife unless her name is Maria. The females used so many surnames it sometimes
simplifies things. Also expect females to have more than one surname. Another
thing is if the surname is not usual for the area then expand your search to all
states.
Also the Sagrada Mitra does deal with only dispensations for the earlier years.
I have not tried the Guadalajara records but they sound very informative.
good luck in your search.. the ancestors are waiting for you to find them!
Linda in B.C.

________________________________
From: Alice Blake
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sun, June 26, 2011 5:26:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at
www.familysearch.org

Thanks so much, Linda!
Since I'm relatively new at this, I thought that maybe there is another source I
just didn't know about dealing specifically with dispensations for marriage that
offered more information than the informacion matrimonials online. It's true
I'm currently dealing mostly with early to mid 1700's, so things must have been
different then or different from parish to parish. Continued good luck on your
gold mine!
Alice Blake

--- On Sun, 6/26/11, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at
www.familysearch.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 8:35 PM

Alice these are marriage information records for Jerez, Zacatecas. I'm working
on 1891-1902 so it's no wonder there are more than 3,100 pages. Not all marriage

information records give as much information as the later ones but they do
usually mention the inlaws and of course the witnesses. I am also now intering
if they could read or write also, that information is on the marriage
information records too and also for the witnesses and parents. Some older
records simply state they had a dispensation and how many generations, 2nd, 3rd
or 4th degree. I find marriage information records give more information than
any other church record.
I am only working on the Familysearch pilot program now since I can work from
home. Going to Jerez and Jalisco was of no help since they were understaffed,
overworked and had no copy machines. I think others have had better experiences

finding records in Mexico than I did.

Linda in B.C.

Linda,
What sort of record is it that lists so many generations back?! The matrimonial

entries I've researched online are very short, sometimes don't even list
parents. Then the corresponding informacion matrimonial to the entry, is not
much longer. I've never even seen grandparents mentioned, usually just
testigos giving the same formulaic responses.

What you're doing sounds very long and drawn, but with the promise of great
results.

Please let me know. Are these documents you are researching from another source

other than familysearch online or microfilm?
Thanks so much. Sounds exciting! Alice Blake

--- On Sun, 6/26/11, Erlinda Castanon-Long wrote:

From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at
www.familysearch.org
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, June 26, 2011, 5:38 PM

5 generations.

Sometimes we are very lucky and find someone working on the same lines and they
share their information that connects us and takes us back generations.

find if you have the first page of each month..

Happy hunting, Linda in B.C.
( researching in Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan)

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!!
:)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family
back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas>
Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found
ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in
1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records. Is
there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the
actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de
San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records
after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by
location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example:
"Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number

where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It

goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going
blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) atwww.familysearch.org

Comment

Thank you, Linda. Good suggestions. I,too, have found the importance of jotting down page numbers attached to dates;otherwise you find yourself, researching pages more times than one. In the end, however, research remains that, i.e., lots of tedious plowing through page of page, looking for that elusive family member. But what satisfaction in "discovery",no?

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, Ca
(Researching in Jalisco, Aguascalientes, and Nayarit)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Sender: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2011 10:38:43
To:
Reply-to: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at
www.familysearch.org

Sometimes we are very lucky and find someone working on the same lines and they
share their information that connects us and takes us back generations.

Happy hunting, Linda in B.C.
( researching in Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan)

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!!
:)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family
back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas>
Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found
ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in
1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records. Is
there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the
actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de
San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records
after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by
location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example:
"Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number
where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It
goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going
blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) atwww.familysearch.org

Comment

Paul, I should have mentioned there is no thrill like finding it yourself.. for
this reason when putting things in my online baptism files I put the childs
name, date of birth and city and the parents only. I give the film and page
number to allow the reader to find the grandparents and padrinos for
themselves. I do list the grandparents but not how they are listed in the
record. I totally agree with you!!!
Linda in B.C.

________________________________
From: "paul.gomez@verizon.net"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sun, June 26, 2011 11:44:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera)
atwww.familysearch.org

Thank you, Linda. Good suggestions. I,too, have found the importance of jotting
down page numbers attached to dates;otherwise you find yourself, researching
pages more times than one. In the end, however, research remains that, i.e.,
lots of tedious plowing through page of page, looking for that elusive family
member. But what satisfaction in "discovery",no?

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, Ca
(Researching in Jalisco, Aguascalientes, and Nayarit)
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

5 generations.

Sometimes we are very lucky and find someone working on the same lines and they
share their information that connects us and takes us back generations.

find if you have the first page of each month..

Happy hunting, Linda in B.C.
( researching in Zacatecas, Jalisco and Michoacan)

A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right direction!!!
:)
After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas family
back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase> Blase> Blas>
Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found
ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor in
1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records. Is
there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I found the
actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas and Maria de
San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through the records
after I went from:
1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by
location"
2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records"
4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example:
"Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film number

where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch number? It

goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier way than going
blind like this..... or is this it?
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

Comment

Hello Nancy,

I looked up the marriage you mentioned which showed to be in film 279299. I
looked up the name of the volume by going to
https://www.familysearch.org/#form=catalog&catSearchType=film_number then
putting in the film number then I went down the list until I found it
corresponds with Matrimonios 1791-1800. Then I went to Mexico, Jalisco,
Catholic Church Records Jalostotitlán - Nuestra Señora de la Asunción
like you mentioned and I clicked on the link for Matrimonios 1791-1800. Then
I checked some pages until I found image 241 which has the marriage record
you were looking for. The film record number in the index definitely matches
where the record actually is. There is a difference between the records of
Matrimonios which is a record of the actual marriage and Información
Matrimonial which is a record of the declarations of the involved parties
and the witnesses. The names found in the records of the Información
Matrimonial unfortunately were not indexed but at least they are available
online now.

The batch number can be used to specify your searches within that batch. If
you already have a batch number and do an advanced search there is an option
to put the batch number in there. The batch search helps if you are
researching a specific surname in a specific area instead of a specific
person.

If you are tracking which images have which dates it would be great if you
could share that with us in an online spreadsheet through Google docs. I
have an incomplete example at
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=t3TFSBZqgC-ld…

Regards,
Armando

On Sun, Jun 26, 2011 at 11:34 AM, wrote:

> A huge thank you to Daniel Méndez Camino who sent me in the right
> direction!!! :)
> After only a few weeks at familysearch.org...I can trace our Casillas
> family back from Blase Alexander Casillas (my little grandson) to Blase>
> Blase> Blas> Cristino> Pilar> Crisanto> Carlos> Santiago> and our last found
> ancestor...Joseph Cabrera Casillas who was married to Paula de Villasensor
> in 1771 and referenced as the parents of Santiago in his marriage records.
> Is there an easier way to access the records in familysearch.org. I
> found the actual hand written marriage record of José de Santiago Casillas
> and Maria de San José Vasquez (Basquez) in 1797, but I had to scroll through
> the records after I went from:
> 1) Scrolling down the page at familysearch.org to where it says "Browse by
> location"
> 2) Choosing "USA, Canada, and Mexico"
> 3) Scrolling down on next page to: "Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church
> Records"
> 4) Clicking on the BLUE link that says "Browse through 5 Million + records"
> 5) Next page Click on "Jalostotitlan"
> 6) Next page Click on BLUE link that says "Nuestra Senora de la Asuncion"
> 7) Next page you have to choose the year you are searching for example:
> "Information matrimonial 1797", and scroll through 100's of records.
> They had film record numbers on their indexes which didn't match the film
> number where I found Santiago's marriage record, and what good is the batch
> number? It goes nowhere? Can anyone give me a hint? Is there an easier
> way than going blind like this..... or is this it?
> Nancy Casillas
> Saint Clair, Michigan
>

Question: Researching (Casillas-Cabrera) at www.familysearch.org

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Glad I could be of service. I was taught the more we share the more we receive.

Daniel Méndez Camino

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Daniel Mendez Camino.... I can send you what I have so far...but the files some of them are huge 2-5 Mb so I would only be able to send them a few at a time. Send me your email address again....for some reason it disappeared out of my email in box file. I don't know what happened.
Nancy