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Translation help for Father/Son Alviso back to back dispensas

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  • By Maureen Bejar | Wed, 2011-08-17 21:06

    My Spanish is limited and I have found something curious. Mateo Alviso and his son Calixto Alviso had back to back dispensas done and I need help with the translation. Would someone be so kind to help me out? Mateo's dispensa for his marriage to Casimira Vasquez is San Miguel el Alto 1832-1855 image 197 page 178 and his son Calixto to Atanacia Gallardo (aka Martin) image 198 page 179 (the next page) Here is the link:

    https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

    Thank you for any help!

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    Angelina Markle

    14 years 2 months ago

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    Translation help for Father/Son Alviso back toback dispensas

    Hello Mytmo,

    I took a look at the images you mentioned and I did not see anything that
    was worth pulling out. It looks like they are just a confirmations that the
    dispensations were granted in Guadalajara. I would look for the original
    dispensa in Guadalajara for any details on these marriages.

    -Angelina-

    -----Original Message-----
    From: mytmo@netnitco.net
    Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2011 9:17 PM
    To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
    Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Translation help for Father/Son Alviso back
    toback dispensas

    My Spanish is limited and I have found something curious. Mateo Alviso and
    his son Calixto Alviso had back to back dispensas done and I need help with
    the translation. Would someone be so kind to help me out? Mateo's dispensa
    for his marriage to Casimira Vasquez is San Miguel el Alto 1832-1855 image
    197 page 178 and his son Calixto to Atanacia Gallardo (aka Martin) image 198
    page 179 (the next page) Here is the link:

    https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

    Thank you for any help!

    Maureen Bejar

    14 years 2 months ago

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    In reply to Translation help for Father/Son Alviso back toback dispensas by Angelina Markle

    Father/Son Dispensas back to Back Guadalajara

    Thank you, Angelina, I will try Guadalajara.

    Jorge Elias

    14 years 2 months ago

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    Dispensa de impedimento en tercer grado de consanguinidad otorga

    Hi Maureen

    I went to see the file you mentioned and I, as Angelina, didn’t see noting exceptional just the need of dispensation for the coupe because they were related in 3th grade. That means that they were may be cousins. You will more certain of their kinship when you´ll find their Guadalajara´s records. I transcribed the entire document 1 in Spanish (as you see my English in not handsome at all!) I hope this way it will be easier to understand.

    In the second document the details are the same, but the date (16 and 30 sep) and the names of the couple. That´s odd more if you said they are father and son. Is it possible that they were brothers instead of father and son?

    I attach here the document, good luck!

    http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/filemanager/active?fid=3926

    Jorge Elias
    Miami, FL

    Maureen Bejar

    14 years 2 months ago

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    In reply to Dispensa de impedimento en tercer grado de consanguinidad otorga by Jorge Elias

    Father/Son Dispensas Translation

    Dear Jorge:
    Thank you so much, that helps! Now another question. I have look at the Guadajara records and there are cofraidias ordenes, etc, but no dispensas. Can someone direct me to the Guadalajara dispensas? Where might they be found?

    Maureen Bejar

    Armando

    14 years 2 months ago

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    In reply to Father/Son Dispensas Translation by Maureen Bejar

    Father/Son Dispensas Translation

    Most dispensas are found in the Matrimonios volumes of Diócesis de
    Guadalajara
    https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

    There are also some dispensas under San Juan de los Lagos
    https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

    Armando

    On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:08 AM, wrote:

    > Dear Jorge:
    > Thank you so much, that helps! Now another question. I have look at the
    > Guadajara records and there are cofraidias ordenes, etc, but no dispensas.
    > Can someone direct me to the Guadalajara dispensas? Where might they be
    > found?
    >
    > Maureen Bejar

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