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Yolanda

--- On Wed, 12/24/08, yotomas@yahoo.com wrote:

From: yotomas@yahoo.com
Subject: O holy fiesta! A Mexican Christmas Eve

I noticed a few of us with roots in Teocaltiche, Jalisco. I visited Teocaltiche in 1998. I visited with the local cronista, Senor Rameriz, the uncle of author Nicolas De anda Sanchez.

I have been going through the IGI and ordering films, but having a difficult time getting pass my great-grandfather Mauro Rodriguez.

HAPPY NEW YEAR! I hope your new year will be filled with rewarding family research.
I was going through some old (really OLD) email messages this morning - the "Ancestry.com" newsletter that I had been ignoring for quite some time, and came across a reference to this site:

Happy Holidays to all:

I have a civil marriage record from Distrito Federal, Mexico dated 07 Jan 1917 and I am unable to translate two statements. “En la casa no 94 de la oclava del Reloj el Sr Pbro D.J. Guadalupe Chavez, V.P. asistio a siete de enero de mil novecientos diecisiete al matrimonio que in extremis (or fue in extremis) contrajeron Juan Breña y Ma Gonzalez fueron testigos Francisco y Ana Breña “

I am wondering if anybody has any ties to the Mora family from Ocotlan. I have Jose Antonio Mora born in Ocotlan 1806. Parents were Rafael Mora and Gertrudis Baca. I found a Jose Rafael Mora born in 1786 in Ocotlan, Jalisco, but I haven't been able to confirm if it's the correct Jose Rafael Mora. I was wondering if any members have any Mora line tying into the southern end of Jalisco. Jose Antonio Mora married Trinidad Villaroel of Atotonilco el alto, Jalisco in 1826 in Ocotlan. Please if anyone has any information would they reply it would be greatly appreciated.

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LUISA LOSANO GONSALES Pedigree

Hola compañeros, desde hace varios días que se encuentra en el foro discuciones e información sobre personas de apellido Quezada; y hoy me di a la tarea de buscar a todas las personas Quezada que tengo en mi base de datos y que no les he podido seguir la línea.

I just learned the www.familytreedna.com has a December sale on at least some of their test kits when purchased through one of the projects (you can generally fit yourself into one of the posted projects. There is a Mexican Surname Project and lots of specific surname and geographic projects.) The Y-DNA37w/ mtDNAPlus kit is $199 (I paid over $300), and the Y-67DNAw/mtDNAPlus kit is $308. I don't know what the latter one was before, but that represents a good savings. I only wish I had known about their apparently traditional December-only sales.

Hola a Todos:

Gracias a Jorge Luis por contestarme, aqui comento lo siguiente:
En mensajes atras Jorge Luis mando la reproduccion de lo que parece
ser el retrato del Alarife Martin Casillas, constructor de la Santa Catedral

Greetings,

My GEDCOM is now available under Aaron Casillas.

Notables =
1) Martin "Alarife" Casillas
    a) Spainard who built the Cathedral in Guadalajara, according to Jose Alberto Casillas, related to Viceroy Mendoza

Hola Jorge Luis,

Yo solamente tengo informacion de mi familia Quezada de approx. 1860 al presente.? Tengo mucho mas que investigar.?

Marisela
Fresno, California

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Rudy and Esperanza,? my ancestors are Quesadas from the Teocaltiche, Jalisco area also.? My great-grandfather was Emigdio Quezada and his parents were Jose Guadalupe Quezada and Gregoria Martinez.? I don't have birthdates for Jose or Gregoria.? Does this help any of you???? Do you have any dates for your Quesadas???

Hola Amigos de Nuestros Ranchos:

Ayer tuve tiempo de leer los cuatro cuentos de la región de Jalisco, en los que indiscutiblemente se nota la influencia europea, lo que es lógico tratandose de Jalisco pues como todos sabemos es uno de los estados en el que se ha tratado de conservar la cultura y tradiciones españolas y de otros paises de Europa hasta nuestros días. Siendo mis antepasados maternos de Jalisco, he tenido la oportnidad de comparar las costumbres, tradiciones, literatura y hasta superticiones de decendientes de europeos y de indigenas, pues mis ascendientes paternos, aunque mestizos se consideran con orgullo de sangre azteca.

I haven't talked about this and I don't believe it has been addressed by
others. Please do not invite the nuestrosranchos.org group members
either as a whole (via the email discussion groups) or individually

th furniture. FREE to download & use! http://www.imvu.com Copyright © 2006-2007 IMVU, Inc.

I've just updated my file on Rootsweb.com. Most of the research in for the district of Jerez Zacatecas but there is also research from Tamazula and Zapotlan El Grande/Ciudad Gusman Jalisco and then to Michoacan in the 1780's and earlier. The file is too large to post on Nuestros since there are abt 59,000 names. I hope there is something of interest there for many of you researching those areas.

Hi,

I have this book on Heraldry by Stefan Oliver, "An Introduction to
Heraldry." It doesn't really talk about our genealogy and I'm not really
into Heraldry so I thought I'd give it away to a nuestrosranchos.org

I've been asked to help someone find family from San Pedro Piedra Gorda, Cuauhtemoc, Zacatecas and I'm not familiar with it at all, any suggestions where it's located or if there are films from there? They are searching for their grandfather Carlos Vasquez, born abt 1901, mother is Juana Saucedo. That's all the information they have. The rest of this family is from Jerez Zacatecas Mexico.

Three weeks ago I requested photocopies from LDS, but the microfilms containing two of the records I requested were badly damaged, and they did not send copies. Instead, they suggested to visit my closest Family Research Center, and extract the info directly from the microfilm. Unfortunately, the center closest to me does not have these films, so I need your help. These are the two records:

As hard as it was to believe there was a direct hit winner. In the
future I will not make the mistake of neglecting to inform everyone to
email me directly with your guesses. I'm sorry to everyone in the group

Rudy and Esperanza,

Congratulations on the discovery of your connection, the excitement is palpable and there's nothing like it, to finally make that familial connection.

That's what brings us to this group, the hope that we'll learn about ourselves by learning about our ancestors, and if in the process we make a connection with a family member, it's a homerun.

Hello all!

My father was a "bracero" (laborer contracted in a group). I think "bracero" term refers to "brazo" equal to "arm" for labor or work in the U. S. during, but not exclusivly, World War II and Korea War.

Good Evening,

I'd like to take a moment to introduce myself to the group. I have just recently begun to research my family roots. I am new to this so please be patient with me until I get up to speed with all of you!!! It has been a difficult task obtaining famly information since most of the family with the key information has passed on. The branch I am currently focusing on is for my Paternal Munoz & Macias lineage. My Grandfathers name was Jose Gutierrez Munoz who was born in Tlachichila, Zacatecas in 1897. My grandfathers parents names were Magdaleno Munoz & Nolberta Gutierrez. The only other info I have on this line is the name of my gg grandfather Rafael Gutierrez. From what I am told Rafael had two wives. However, no one remembers their names! Any help with this branch would be very welcome. Nolberta Gutierrez had siblings by the names of: Margarita, Thomasa, Basilia & Rafael. Magdaleno Munoz had only one sister by the name of Diega who married a Santellan.

Regarding braceros,

Leticia Leon

I found a web site: which describes how to get assistance in obtaining compensation. If you carry out a google search on "bracero" you will find a lot of reading material.

David Delgado in Albany, CA