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I just finished reading an article some of you may find of interest: "The Genetic Legacy of Religious Diversity and Intolerance: Paternal Lineages of Christians, Jews, and Muslims in the Iberian Peninsula" by Susan M. Adams, et al, in the Dec. 12, 2008 issue of The American Journal of Human Genetics, Vol. 83, pp 725-736. I don't pretend to understand all of it, but grasped enough to feel the reading worthwhile. I had to get the assistance of someone with access to a medical library to get it, but you all may have your own resources.

I was curious to know a little more about the oft-mentioned Santo Toribio Romo Gonzales, and came across this site (which many of you have probably seen):

http://www.stspeterandpaul-tulsa.org/SaintToribioShrine/tabid/59/langua…

Daniel, I have Juana Gertrudis's surname as MARTIN, not MARIN, as taken from her son Miguel's marriage. I don't have a copy so can't verify this.
Her surname may also be MARTINES?

!MARRIAGE: #299827, notes only

Hello, does anyone know anything on Sebastián Díaz de Sandi's wife Juana Gertrudis Marín, they should have married ca. 1712. They had at least Sebastián Onofré 1713 and Miguel 1717. Sebastián (I) parent's are Diego Díaz y Montáñez and Jacinta Carillo de Sandi.

Sheri,Somos primos! Please contact me at dexaime@excite.com. I have the JAIME lineage going back to the 1600s and Donacia PEDROZA ROMO'S pedigree (2 generations). I also have the descendants of Lasaro MORA which eventually run into our lineage. However, I couldn't find a Tomas MORA.Luis-----Original Message-----From: "Sherri Mora" [kanakalele@aol.com]Date: 03/10/2009 02:42 AMTo: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.orgSubject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Sabina Jaime and Narciso Mora Dear Victor: I joined this group one week ago hoping to find information regarding Sabina Jaime/Jayme. I started researching my family history just 2 months ago and have hit quite a roadblock with Sabina, my paternal great grandmother. My grandfather was Jesus Mora, brother to Maria de la Luz. I will share with you the information that I think is linked to her and some questions/theories to explain the difficulty we are having. First, I have found the same information in regards to her baptism, marriage,

For Rick Ricci and others researching MARTINEZ CALVILLO

First let me correct the list of children for Juan MARTINES CALBILLO and Josepha AGUILERA De Sandi given in my previous posting:
Anttonia, c. 1671, is not their child, she was the daughter of Ygnasio MARTINEZ CALVILLO and Juana SOTELO de Jaen.

Víctor,

No puedo ayudar con tus preguntas. Sin embargo, hice unas rápidas búsquedas. Descubrí que parece haber información de uno de tu bisabuelos en un microfilm, #1155497. Ese microfilm está a mi alcance en la biblioteca que yo visito los martes y miércoles. Posiblemente ya tienes esos datos pero si quieres puedo enviar una copia. Se trata del matrimonio siguiente:

Busco archivos parroquiales o registros civiles de Mexticacan Jal. de 1925 a 1935 alguien tiene o sabe donde encontrarlos, estoy en Monterrey y no tengo viaje a mexticacan hasta diciembre, gracias de antemano.

While we are on the subject of books and historians, does anyone know if
there are any books on Yahualica or Cuquio, Jalisco? Or on Nochistlan,
Zac?

Joseph, I'm working on marriage information records and came across this one, not sure it's the right family but thought you might want to see it.

Recorded 10 May 1794 in Jerez
Jose Marcial Roman, Espanol age 38 from San Juan

I am trying to find information on Diego Lopes de Nava and Juana Gertrudes Flores.

He was born about 1720/30, probably in Aguascalientes, and married Juana Gertrudes Flores. They had at least one child, Maria Teresa Lopes de Nava, who married Jose Pantaleon Sandoval (date unknown); she died 14 Jul 1786, and was buried at Nuestra Sra. de Guadelupe, Aguascalientes. Jose Pantaleon Sandoval married again in 1787, Maria Ignacia Lopes de Nava (daughter of Jose Eulogio Lopes de Nava and Maria Antonia Romo de Vivar).

I have a Juan Julián González de Bermejo marrying Gertrudis López de Nava, Gertrudis is listed as Gertrudis López de Nava y Flores de la Torre in her daughters marriage. Her daughter was María Salomé González de Bermejo married 26 apr 1739 in Teocaltiche to Matías Ruiz de Esparza. Any help will be appreciated. -Daniel

I reordered my albums and added photos of a Coss Y Leon decendant:Genaro Coss Y Leon Aranda, from Arandas, Jalisco. Although we are from the same ancestor I only have Leon as last name.

go to http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/16845 to view my Coss Y Leon album.

Dear Grupo,
I came across this online: Orden Imperial de Guadalupe Establecida conforme al Decreto de la Junta Soberana Provincial Gubernativa de 20 de Febrero de 1822 confirmada el 11 de Julio del mismo ano. Does anyone know what this refers to? Thanks so much for your help. Alice BB

Hi, I was wondering if anyone knows who Caterina, daughter of don Marcos Pedroza and María López de Nava, married? Her daughter was my ancestor's first wife. Juana Izzazi y Martín del Campo or Cuevas. I think her paternal grandparents were Nicolás Martín del Campo and Sebastiana Izzazi y Cuevas, hence the Izzazi y Martín del Campo. Juana was also known as Juana Izzazi y Cuevas. So I KNOW for a fact she descended from the same alteño Izazzi.

For Bill Figueroa, re Moran & Martines-Calbillo / Lopes

Bill, I have several questions about the family of Domingo MORAN and his wife Antonia MARTINES-CALBILLO / LOPES. Where does the LOPES come in with Antonia MARTINES-CALBILLO? Are their parents named in their wedding document [4 Aug 1665]?

Hi everyone!
Mi name is Lucia and I'm doing research about mi roots at los altos de Jalisco, specially about Camarena, Santos, Delgado and Correa.

I'm starting with Camarena that is the one I've more advance in.

I've be following the thread in regards to the books dealing Nuevo Galicia with interest. I was wondering if anyone knows of any books dealing specifically with the history of Tepatitlan \ Los Altos or San Jose de Bazarte.

Just a simple question.

I understand that the present method probably is quicker and saves time for the original document-recorder person in 99% of the time; but WHY does that person (who creates these documents) NOT bother to include the names of the parents of the newlyweds ???? If the parent's names are not on the record or illegible, that can be noted on the IGI just as easily.

Hi, Everyone:

I am sorry I do not contribute very often. While I have made some very
important and significant connections with those with whom I share a common
ancestor (thanks to this forum), my area of research and family is not

Hola compañeros y amigos, me encuentro con un problema al investigar a José Domínguez y María Josefa Cornejo que debieron casar aprox. en 1776 en San Miguel el Alto o Jalostotitlán, pero no encuentro datos mas atrás sobre ellos.

Alguien tiene información de Ana María Castellanos, mujer de Anastasio Arias Maldonado, que debió nacer aprox. en 1720 en Tepatitlán u Ocotlán. Ellos tuvieron una hijo llamado Antonio Matías Arias Maldonado que casó con María Lugarda Gutiérrez Galindo.

Hello Group,

Does anyone know of any books with marriage/baptismal records for Jalisco, 1850/1900
If you do please let me know. I would appreciate any information.
Thank You,
Del

Daniel, how can I access the scans of Sagrada Mitra de Guadalajara? Thank you, Raymond Medrano

I am looking for any info on these names: Martinez, Aguilar, Macias and D'avila from the 1800 + The areas are Ojuelos, Jalisco, Pinos, Zacatecas, and Aguascaliente.

Thank you.

Estoy buscando cual quer informacion sobre estos nombres: Martinez, Aguilar, Macias y D'avila de 1800+.